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Old 15-01-2018, 02:42 PM
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I didn't know where to put this so hope its correct and will be seen

Im having trouble deciding how to move forwards and was wondering if anyone on here could either give a different perspective or opinion on my position
I am currently working on a farm that produces products for the equine market summer is spent in a tractor and winter is spent between a lorry and in the factory which has 2. Static rebalers for processing straw and hay
In the past i have work on farms and on a greenwaste site processing compost but also maintaining and repairing the machinery
On all the farms i have worked i have repaired and maintained the machinery and the same with the static processing equipment i hace also installed some of this equipment from getting in place and bolting it down to running cables and final assembly

However i do not have any qualifications
And it has got to the point where the machinery is all installed and working reliably so i am spending my time running it which means starring at a screen for hours on end which is incredibly boring however half the time im on a lorry which is ok i only agreed to run the machinery for a month until a replacement was found for someone that quit this was over a year ago i have spoken to the boss and he said hopefully things will change but i dont think he grasps how boring and depressing its becoming

There are 2 jobs going locally 1 for a livestock haulier and one as a tractor driver

Both these jobs would mean a lot of new things to learn but within agriculture where i am now has the possibility of learning about manafacturing machinery in larger detail but not a definite

I keep going round in my head as the local jobs will be interesting at first and the chance to learn more skills but it will mean being stuck within agriculture and the pay and hours associated with it whereas staying put is boring at the moment but i may learn things to make me more valuable in the future

And i cant clearly see what to do
I was wondering if anyone with an external view could help give an insight to anything i may have not thought about
Or whether anyone has any suggestions as to how to head towards a more skilled and reconised roll for someone with no qualifications
Im very good with my hands and tools and would like to put this to use but im not really in a position to go become an apprentice as i couldn't afford the wage drop
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Old 15-01-2018, 02:56 PM
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Can you see a future where you still work for your current employer, but in a role you enjoy? Does such a job exist there (or could it?). Are there any relevant qualifications applicable to what you currently do/useful to your current firm in the future? If any of these answers are yes, Id have a good chat with your employer and put your thoughts honestly to them. If they value you they are likely to try and keep hold of you Id imagine - if you could get some qualifications (if for no other reason than to improve your personal feelings of self-worth) and see a path to more interesting work then staying with what you know might not be a bad idea.
However, if you firmly believe that your current job has run its course then pick a job you fancy and go for it - you sound like a very handy fella and Id imagine will be welcomed wherever you aim yourself! Talk to people and explain your skill set - qualifications (or lack of) can seem like a barrier to entry to some roles. A decent employer will often see beyond this if the right person with the correct aptitude crosses their path. Whatever you do, believe in your own abilities (and dont be a lazy bastard!). Good luck!
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Old 15-01-2018, 08:14 PM
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I had to get away from farming to get on in life. That probably isn't what you want to hear.

Do you have a tied cottage? I could never get one and found myself treated as short term staff there for the convenience of the farmer. It was difficult to move out of the industry for the reason that all my skills/experience were farming related. But I did have an HGV license and various skills like yourself.

Sorry if that isn't helping?
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Old 15-01-2018, 08:44 PM
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Thanks monkey business your thoughts are very useful

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I had to get away from farming to get on in life. That probably isn't what you want to hear.

Do you have a tied cottage? I could never get one and found myself treated as short term staff there for the convenience of the farmer. It was difficult to move out of the industry for the reason that all my skills/experience were farming related. But I did have an HGV license and various skills like yourself.

Sorry if that isn't helping?
I think thats what i already know i just don't know what the next step is
Yes i have accommodation which makes it hard as i cant afford to rent in the area and save any amount so its move area or rent for eternity
As i said i have skills i just don't know what use they are to anyone And if i do look at short courses i dont even know what area to look into
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Old 15-01-2018, 09:22 PM
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My brother left farming and now works as a maintenance man in a fish food factory,he's no qualifications apart from welding milk tankers.

He's happy with the job and so is his wife,unfortunately another good farm lad lost to other industry.
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Old 15-01-2018, 09:56 PM
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Two trains of thought.

Better the devil you know is the one that I am most certain is the way forward. Accommodation and a Job you like 75% of the year (considering the summer is enjoyable and the winter is half likable. It would sound to me like the main issue is running the static balers etc which I have been and done. My advice would be to see if you can change it, throw a PC or similar inside/beside the controls and a chair to give you something to do other than stare at the baler telling you it's not run out of twine just yet....

The other note of caution is that although exciting from a new job perspective you will not have the reputation and command the respect you must currently have, and Lorry driving in particular gets old very fast! Same with being a tractor driver.... it's alright to a point.

That said I had about 6 jobs in the two years between leaving school and going to Trax's..... Every job brought new lessons and I'm still hobbling about today between my own work, driving for others, and talking utter bollocks in other peoples yards.

My advice would be that only you can choose, but I'd be staying put with a view to some other sideline for yourself in the winter/part of the year.... if mechanics is a passion take it up part time!
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Old 16-01-2018, 06:49 PM
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Thanks thats great help on clearing my thoughts
And providing a new perspective
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Old 16-01-2018, 07:21 PM
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some interesting commentary here.

Are you satisfied with the remuneration levels where you currently are Smiffy and do they adequately compensate for the issues you're having?

sounds as though you have your feet pretty firmly 'under the table' where you are ....
the more indispensable you make your self in any job, the less likely you are to be 'let go', which always gives you a good negotiating position, when it comes to pay levels, hours, holidays, etc.

As said, can you incorporate 'distractions', into the daily grind ... and/or make it more rewarding, either financially or in terms of your 'own time'?

sounds like the current employer is 'taking the piss', a bit, but you also have him in a fairly vulnerable position .... if you were to leave, especially at short notice, could he cope???
you appear to be doing the work of what used to be done by two employees, so he's also saving a wage too.

As always ..... weigh up carefully all the pros and cons for either leaving or staying and pay considerable attention to security in those deliberations .. it's difficult to value, but costly if you're without it
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Old 16-01-2018, 07:48 PM
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All the time you spend doing something you don't like is wasted,never get it back,eleven years ago I split with ex,job I hated,ended up with 50 in my pocket n knackered escort van,since then I got on with firms i liked working for,met people who I got into good situations with,went from being skint to having two houses paid for cash,vehicles,bikes,toys,'fuck off: money in bank,not boasting or saying what works for one,works for another but you can change your situation,even if you only make a small change its a start.
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Old 16-01-2018, 08:29 PM
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a good friend has spent his life in farming and his take on it recently was that its modern day slavery ,if your ambitious and self motivated go on your own provide a releif service or something to cover peoples holidays etc cos youll never get anywhere working for someone else in agriculture
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