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Old 28-06-2017, 01:02 AM
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Default Small plastic 'paper' medium Fuel Filter

JCB MIDI CX has a Pre Filter ( 32/922300) that looks very much like a Fram # G3359 filter. Not sure if you folks across the pond are familiar with Fram as a filter company. The outer casing is plastic and when I cut the two open the internals look very much the same. Looking at an alternative to the JCB filter because this filter clogs at about 100 hours. It has done this since I bought the tractor New. The Fram filter costs $4.00 American and the JCB is $37.00 American. I have heard that I cannot use these gas based in-line filters because the Diesel will ruin the filtering medium. Has anyone of you Diesel experts heard of a small in-line Gas filter getting ruined by passing Diesel thru it? Does anyone know of a company that makes small in-line filters that are Diesel hardy?
The Early MIDI CX's did not have this filter. I think they added it because the earlier CX's had fuel from tank , thru Lift pump then to Water Separator filter to engine. The new CX's has Fuel tank, this little filter , Lift Pump, Water separator then engine. I guess they are cleaning the fuel a bit to save the Lift Pump. I wondered if I can reroute the system. Fuel Tank, water seperator/Filter, Lift Pump then Engine. Any harm in the lift Pump pulling thru the Separator rather then Pushing thru it?

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Old 28-06-2017, 10:57 AM
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Default Re: Small plastic 'paper' medium Fuel Filter

We have Fram over this side of the pond too

A quick google suggests the following equivilants;

Baldwin BF9906,
Hifi Hirschi Jura SN21601,
In-Line Filters FF30644, FINFF30644, FIN-FF30644,
JCB 32/922300, 32922300,
Kobelco VV12905255630,
Schupp SF SKV394,
Yanmar 12905255630, YM12905255630

I'd suggest you talk to your local parts stockist and run those numbers!
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Old 28-06-2017, 11:15 PM
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Default Re: Small plastic 'paper' medium Fuel Filter

Ah, these are cross numbers for the Fram G3359.

No cross for the JCB #? The fram has one nipple at a Right angle to the filter. I was going to adapt a Brass nipple to that. I was hoping for a Direct cross to the JCB number 32/922300 since I have been hearing that the Fram and alike are for Gas only. Bottom line is the Fram and the Cross numbers you gave would be great IF they can handle Diesel.

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Old 29-06-2017, 07:32 AM
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Default Re: Small plastic 'paper' medium Fuel Filter

Had a similar problem with a forklift fitted a larger john deere branded one at it lasted far longer
Not sure what its from just asked the dealer for an inline filter
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Old 29-06-2017, 08:44 AM
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I'm not sure what difference it makes - they may be rated for both Petrol & Diesel, after all, they're just filtering a liquid.
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Old 29-06-2017, 12:53 PM
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Default Re: Small plastic 'paper' medium Fuel Filter

Fit the after market fram filter in the line before the genuine filter, this way if the fram filter is up to the job it will prolong the life of the jcb filter & if it is not up to the job at least you still have clean fuel entering the pump.
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Old 29-06-2017, 02:57 PM
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I'm not sure what difference it makes - they may be rated for both Petrol & Diesel, after all, they're just filtering a liquid.
I agree. figured that Gas is more of a solvent then Diesel. But what do I know. That's why I ask.. I figured some of you Mechanics (Fitters,as you say) would have some life experience knowledge.
If I had the room I would run the less expensive Fram before the JCB prefilter but I also worry about strain on the Lift Pump with many filters in line. I'm a Do it yourselfer thru and thru... Just don't have any time playing with diesels to know what I can and can't do.
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Old 29-06-2017, 03:17 PM
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Default Re: Small plastic 'paper' medium Fuel Filter

Slightly cheaper than $37
http://www.ebay.com/itm/JCB-BACKHOE-...-/162420840761
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Old 29-06-2017, 04:44 PM
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Default Re: Small plastic 'paper' medium Fuel Filter

If it's clogging at 100 hours, then it's getting shitty diesel. Best thing if you can find room would be to install a glass bowl with mesh screen type filter/water separator that you can clean manually for the large particles. Then after this install any kind of inline filter that is rated for diesel- I've not seen any that aren't, personally.

I think the above is what you were getting at in your post? So long as the connections and seals are good there is no reason the lift pump shouldn't pull through. If it doesn't want to play ball for any reason like this, I'd just stick a 20 inline electric lift pump in the pipe somewhere between the tank and glass bowl. I've yet to hear a convincing reason as to why mechanical lift pumps are still used.
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Default Re: Small plastic 'paper' medium Fuel Filter

I'd just be buying a dozen of these and changing as required ....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Spectre-5964...1S~Nkh&vxp=mtr

US $2.49



or these .....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/DISPOSABLE-I...dZKHVd&vxp=mtr

US $3.10



if it'll cope with petrol, it'll handle diesel easily ..... petrol has a far greater solvent effect on adhesives than diesel ever will.

As said .... you must be using some pretty sh*tty fuel to be blocking filters in 100 hrs
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