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01-05-2017, 03:03 PM
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Re: Towing a trailer with a duck
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Originally Posted by d4c24a
I think you will find the part about carrying arisings will apply to vacex trucks etc
and this is in the description at the beginning for engineering plant
(2) The first condition is that the motor vehicle or trailer is specially designed and constructed for the special purposes of engineering operations that cannot safely be carried out by a motor vehicle or trailer that complies in all respects with -
(a) the Construction and Use Regulations; and
(b) the Goods Vehicles Type Approval Regulations.
so if it does not satisfy that there is no point going any further into the regs
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BUT! a duck & tipping trailer doesn't meet (a) & (b) above when coupled together going about the work they are designed to do. does it?
Bare with me, I've only read it a coupe of times and swore I wasn't going to get dragged in but the edge just gave way
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01-05-2017, 03:18 PM
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Prince of Jerusalem
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Re: Towing a trailer with a duck
Right I've read it again.
Decision is.............
Duck & trailer hauling ass down highway carrying its attachments is legal.
Having dug a hole in road and hauling the dug material down highway on trailer to a compound to tip it off and return with type 1 & or tarmac is legal.
That is my interpretation of the rules and provided by the law makers
Why you didn't ask in the first place I simply don't understand.
Yes Ollie, tell them dad said it was OK
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01-05-2017, 03:31 PM
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Re: Towing a trailer with a duck
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Yes Ollie, tell them dad said it was OK 
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Always have done anyway  .......and certainly not going to stop now!!!.....a bit like booking a table on a Thursday nite...."and what name should I put the booking name under sir?".......TAYLOR 
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01-05-2017, 03:35 PM
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Re: Towing a trailer with a duck
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Originally Posted by AtlasRob
Right I've read it again.
Decision is.............
Duck & trailer hauling ass down highway carrying its attachments is legal.
Having dug a hole in road and hauling the dug material down highway on trailer to a compound to tip it off and return with type 1 & or tarmac is legal.
That is my interpretation of the rules and provided by the law makers
Why you didn't ask in the first place I simply don't understand.
Yes Ollie, tell them dad said it was OK 
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So we've got to quote the messiah Taylor says it ok officer when we're pulled over
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01-05-2017, 04:02 PM
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Re: Towing a trailer with a duck
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Originally Posted by komatsu
Thursday nite...."and what name should I put the booking name under sir?".......TAYLOR  
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Turbo Trailer Taylor... To be preciest.
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01-05-2017, 04:04 PM
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Re: Towing a trailer with a duck
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Originally Posted by AtlasRob
Immediate comment on the speed.
Ducks seem bloody slow at 20mph on a big wide long empty dual carriageway.
Get on a bit of two lane traffic roadway with a few gentle curves, few hedges, overhanging branches and on coming traffic which varies between aunt Mable meandering down to the Co-op in her Fiesta, a mate of Rory's in his RS late for work and Mr Stobart under paid, under appreciated and lost again, it becomes a different kettle of fish pretty quick
I'd have to sit for a couple of hours going through all the jargon again, and again before I can start to agree or disagree with many of the points / arguments raised.
Bottom line is, it doesn't effect me ( at the moment) so not a lot of point in me getting wound up about it, too much.
On the carrying excavated material question and how? I assume it would be referencing having a bucket full, be it a duck or BHL.
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Just using the Agriculture model Rob, these small modern Ducks like the Hydradig, Mecalac etc would be perfectly acceptable at 25mph. In agriculture over 2.55 metres wide means 20mph limit and this would be a sensible way to go about it, meaning the bigger machines stay as they are.
Eddie.
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01-05-2017, 04:05 PM
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Re: Towing a trailer with a duck
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I do not know if I should laugh or cry for you duck op's in UK
Here in Norway it is allowed to tow a trailer behind the ducks they
need nor be registered since construction machines do not need to be that here
No limit on distance, or on what you have in it either
The duck must have traffic insurance and the op's must have machine operator license and car license
Even if the double trailer like this is not allowed here either
While this is fully legal
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01-05-2017, 04:09 PM
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Knight of the Rose Croix of H.R.D.M
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Re: Towing a trailer with a duck
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Originally Posted by AtlasRob
Right I've read it again.
Decision is.............
Duck & trailer hauling ass down highway carrying its attachments is legal.
Having dug a hole in road and hauling the dug material down highway on trailer to a compound to tip it off and return with type 1 & or tarmac is legal.
That is my interpretation of the rules and provided by the law makers
Why you didn't ask in the first place I simply don't understand.
Yes Ollie, tell them dad said it was OK 
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No no no
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01-05-2017, 04:15 PM
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Prince of Jerusalem
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Re: Towing a trailer with a duck
Just Read Rob's latest... Kin Howling....
I'm off to buy a living van to drag behind the 655 anyway. Speak later.
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01-05-2017, 06:28 PM
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Knight of the Rose Croix of H.R.D.M
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Re: Towing a trailer with a duck
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Originally Posted by AtlasRob
Right I've read it again.
Decision is.............
Duck & trailer hauling ass down highway carrying its attachments is legal.
Having dug a hole in road and hauling the dug material down highway on trailer to a compound to tip it off and return with type 1 & or tarmac is legal.
That is my interpretation of the rules and provided by the law makers
Why you didn't ask in the first place I simply don't understand.
Yes Ollie, tell them dad said it was OK 
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Fraid that bit ain't boss  ..... not arisings ..... goods
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