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Old 31-07-2017, 10:39 AM
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To be fair Gra, I think it's pretty innovative, and certainly is thinking outside the box, when it comes to building a truck for the job in hand. So I think you've got to hand it to them really, not only for the innovation, but to have the rules and legislation that allows it for bespoke builds, I would be surprised if you could build that sort of thing in the U.K., regardless of cost, but I may be wrong on that?
As for the cost, yes it will be expensive. But the Dutch appear to run some very smart and very well thought out trucks generally, that they appear to take great pride in, possibly the Dutch in general value their trucking industry much higher than we do in the U.K., and can earn the money to pay for the impressive equipment they run.
Couldn't have said it better myself James, pretty much exactly what i was thinking
The ability to galvanize the whole thing in it's self is a big bonus! not the mention the build height.
as said i'd love one of those mini artics, but who do you even contact to ask the questions
Maybe just go for it a stick dutch plates on it
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I would be surprised if you could build that sort of thing in the U.K., regardless of cost
Pretty sure your right there James... DVSA Testers nightmare and quite frankly a fitters nightmare.. as it stands my understanding is that A lorry Chassis is not allowed cracks or welds on it (unless manufactured and type approved with) plus anything above the chassis (E.G Subframe and Body) Is not subject to such rigorous testing.
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can't see how they get around type approval .... IIRC SVTA has gone?

It is a great idea James ... not knocking it at all and looks a pukka job ... at a probably not inconsiderable price!!

I see a few Dutch trucks deliver stuff in Abergavenny regularly and always immaculately turned out, one with a specialist built trailer ...
delivers flowers and seriously cleverly racked out

At one time I believe there were gov. set rates for transport in a lot of the EU countries. ..
It stopped 95% of the cut throating that will always knacker the UK's tranny industry .....
a fair an level playing field that meant Co.s won work on quality of service, gear, etc. and not on being 10p a ton/mile cheaper than joe bloggs.

So yeh I do believe their trucking industry does command far more respect .... and it shows
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Pretty sure your right there James... DVSA Testers nightmare and quite frankly a fitters nightmare.. as it stands my understanding is that A lorry Chassis is not allowed cracks or welds on it (unless manufactured and type approved with) plus anything above the chassis (E.G Subframe and Body) Is not subject to such rigorous testing.
Surely the same sort of rules apply across Europe at the moment though?
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Surely the same sort of rules apply across Europe at the moment though?
dream on !! .... they've got all the good bits ..... we get all the shit!!

You can 'road' an RT crane in France with a simple escort .... you'd get locked up here.
towing trailers with ducks .... nuff said ??

Etc., etc., far from a level field
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Surely the same sort of rules apply across Europe at the moment though?
You don't actually believe the EU propaganda that we are all equal do you? Some are more equal than others. Our idiot civil servants gold plate every rule whereas it seems everyone else does their best to mitigate the stupid bits.
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To be fair Gra, I think it's pretty innovative, and certainly is thinking outside the box, when it comes to building a truck for the job in hand. So I think you've got to hand it to them really, not only for the innovation, but to have the rules and legislation that allows it for bespoke builds, I would be surprised if you could build that sort of thing in the U.K., regardless of cost, but I may be wrong on that?
As for the cost, yes it will be expensive. But the Dutch appear to run some very smart and very well thought out trucks generally, that they appear to take great pride in, possibly the Dutch in general value their trucking industry much higher than we do in the U.K., and can earn the money to pay for the impressive equipment they run.
There's no reason why we couldn't do the same here; we're all in the eu (for the time being) so it's a level playing field, as we all know very well.
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You don't actually believe the EU propaganda that we are all equal do you? Some are more equal than others. Our idiot civil servants gold plate every rule whereas it seems everyone else does their best to mitigate the stupid bits.
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No, I'm sure we get screwed over every way. I was thinking in terms of type approval that if something is legal to be on the road in mainland Europe I can't see how they could stop it here?
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No, I'm sure we get screwed over every way. I was thinking in terms of type approval that if something is legal to be on the road in mainland Europe I can't see how they could stop it here?
Don't know how they can stop it, but them seem to. Take ducks towing trailers, JCB suddenly found it was illegal here after they had been advertising trailer set ups for sale on the Hydradig, but perfectly okay everywhere else.
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There's no reason why we couldn't do the same here; we're all in the eu (for the time being) so it's a level playing field, as we all know very well.
try registering it with the DVLA Chris
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